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1  POLITICS / U.S. POLITICS / Re: John Kerry's Wife and Enron on: August 03, 2004, 01:43:45 AM
Rootsie: Curious, Mrs Heinz-Kerry is from Madagascar is it?  Now there's something strange going on there, she sounds kind of like a Boer accent or other dutch colonial dialect of english.  Wonder if she has old rhodesian/south african "roots"?  the original husband died in a mysterious plane crash and she got all the loot.   Something smells like Mossad maybe.   there's so many scam environmental organizations, it's ridiculous.  I have a little non profit myself that tries to maintain integrity in a sea of sharks.  private business is more open and transparent than the international regime of Environmental do gooder orgs.  They all hate each other and compete just as ruthlessly as "evil big corporations" for the "funding" they get.  some really cool smaller orgs, mostly in countries that are defined as "developing" and can't get a leg up.

I'd sure like to know more about Ms. Heinz, who gives a *&^^^ about that jigilo who might be president. Heinz sure sounds smarter and you know she is closer to the powers that be.   I wonder if she hangs out with madeliene allbright?  It would be exciting to have a woman president, but "they" only talk about Hillary and Diane.  Ouch.

This picture show is just getting more absurd by the day.
2  GENERAL / General Board / Re: Fortune & Men's Eyes Dear John: Of course on: July 29, 2004, 03:54:09 AM
Hello Iyah 360: I see there has been discovey of the curious Mr. Rense and his site and J. Kaminsiki.  I've been having an on and off again discussion with both.  Mr. Rense has a very selective and marginal view on Africa.   The Rense site is very usefull and it is open to influencing, which I have  done.  You will note some of the problems if you care to read the following reply to J. Kaminski on his latest appearing on the Rense site.  A great and positive power could be unleashed by elements of  Af. speaks site reasoning with the elements who favor the Rense site (quite diverse actually) It is indeed ironic that certain factors in the "conservative" camp are the most authentic anti-imperialists right now.   The "Democrats" are actually plan B for full steam ahead in military expansion.   Well, here is my reply to John on one of his latest:  

Dear John: Of course the 911 truth out movement, or whatever, is filled with cointelpro disinformation specialists.  The hydra like internet rumor mill is a perfect vehicle for this.  There is no better propaganda than selective truth mixed with lies, re-mixed and untimately confusing and distorting what might have originated as authentic, patriotic investigation into the lie machine.  This is called a "mixed bag" I beleive. There are a number of famous or infamous web sites that engage in this - hollow earth, astrology, aliens, old science fiction plots re-engineered into conspiracy theories without evidence.  Personality cults surrounding 50-50 soothsayers.  Those of us who went through the 60's and 70's cointelpro phenomenon know this well.  Many who rant and rave the loudest are paid best.


Regarding the great unwashed and the failure to appreciate the obvious - there is perhaps a colder version than what your well thought out prose implies.  The majority of the American public knows full well that this is all a lie.  They do not care.   The lie is an official cover for our own conspicous consumption, gluttony and resultant imperialism.  It is a comfort.  If the tacit approval is not conscious it is at least subconscious.  But it is always there.  Thank you for including me in your posts.  I've been down this road before and I am not sure it is worth it. Eventually, "they" work through the family and friends.  Only you will beleive it when it starts happening, no one else can accpet the time honored strategy of hostage taking. We have whole populations of hostages in this country, the flip side of immigration and imperialism that Mr.Rense cannot bring himself to discuss on his site, I imagine due to commercial reasons - potential offense to the listenership there. Simple zenophobia is best.

It is the same with the view on South Africa on that site.   While the Palestenian plight and the battle for regaining their homeland from those awful zionist jews is trumpeted on the page, the horror show that was and is still apharteid and the bed that White Colonialists made for themselves is off limits tø discussion.   Mr.Rense doesn't even understand the linkage between Israel, Zionism, apharteid and the same common complicity in this most malevolent crime against humanity by "average" people of the white elite.  The truth and reconciliation protocols of South Africa were a joke.  They utterly failed to bring to justice some of the most despicable criminals in history, financed and backed by Britain, Holland, and most importantly, the neo-confederate British backed power structure now in charge ø? this country.  Most of the feinds of BOSS and Operation Coast , etc, are alive and well in Texas and California and they are feeding the Rense site with simplistic prattle from "DARKEST AFRICA".

Some Rense disciples have an outright hostile view of Africa, perhaps based on Christian Patriotism (sons of Ham) that AFrica is an eternally self destructive pit of evil.  Is that what you think?  There are so many voices out there to contribute to what your are trying to bring to the public that could only be offended by what they read on the Rense site.

Imperialism and destruction wrought by European Expansion and US mecernary complicity is lambasted over and over again on the Rense site when it involves the "holy land" ,  but when it comes to the "sons of ham" it's their own internal "evil" or "less than subhuman" character(words that have appeared on the REnse site).  It has gone from sublime to ridiculous when articles by the expat S.African reconquista element appear saying that recolonization is fundamental to the improvement of the savages lot, while in other areas ø? super power proxy wars, it is our barbarity and manipulation causing the catasptrophe.  Rense has even opined that AIDS is a chemical warfare conspiracy (probably right), while at the same time proclaiming that Africans would be better off to accept the the same conspirators overlordship, post decimation.

Maybe that is why you are not getting the response you think you deserve, you have offended natural allies in the struggle.  There is still time, but if you can't honestly examine the ruthless and deadly cointelpro  in your midst (the S.African international mercenary and assasin network is one of the most brutal and effective in the world, operating right now in Iraq.) you cannot expect their one time  and future victims, the most trashed and oppressed element of humanity in the last 5 centuries, to reason with you on subjects you have so much to contribute to.  Iraq is a side show!

good luck to you.....and Jeff Rense


9/11 probe?
The joke?s on us

6.7 million Americans are in jail,
but Kean panel refused
to investigate the crime;
worse, alternative explanations
fail to convince public
that coverup happened






3  GENERAL / General Board / Anyone but Bush -  best thing I've read latel on: July 23, 2004, 10:45:46 PM
What a great essay.  We can all  blab on, myself included, about what others should do to effect "revolution" and "emancipation" and "self determination", but one suspects they are waiting for us in Babylon USA and Babylon Europe to release the death grip first.

Kerry is the chosen successor, if by some miracle Bush is defeated, which is looking more and more unlikely.  But who cares?  The president is a figure head.  Oh well, read Rootsie's article, better than I can discuss it.One of the best peices on tweedledum and tweedledee I've read of late.  It should be posted internationally!  Historically, the Democrat Party leads this nation to war.  Remember Gore, who proposed expanded military expenditure over what Bush was promising to deliver in the last run up to the big fraud (election).  

I read on another site sometime ago a proposition for positive action and change.  If enough people excersise non cooperation for only one week with every aspect of "the power" stockpiling enough food to last that long, right before the election and then refused to vote, this would send a profound message and one suspects that if enough people heard about such a plan that decent people across the political spectrum who justifiably perceive the "government" as an organized crime racket, would join in.   Not necessarily in the street but in the pocket book - you would risk alot more than going to the proverbial commons on Saturday to wear funny costumes and "protest".  Something might actually be gained from it.

DO NOT VOTE.
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